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The Science of Clean Power

Clean power, dirty electricity, and the future of energy. In this conversation, Brian Johnson of Senergy360 sits down with Satic Shield CEO B.D. Erickson II to break down EMI, solar inverters, energy management systems, and why measuring first matters when protecting your home and health.

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What is “dirty electricity”? How do solar inverters, smart meters, and modern electronics affect your home’s power quality? And what can you actually do about it?

 

In this in-studio conversation, Brian Johnson of Senergy360 sits down with SATIC Shield CEO & Founder B.D. Erickson II to break down the science behind electromagnetic interference (EMI), dirty electricity, harmonic distortion, and why clean power is becoming essential in modern homes.

 

As energy management systems evolve and the solar industry adapts to post-ITC changes, one thing is clear: power quality matters more than ever. From grid power to solar inverters, today’s homes are filled with high-frequency electrical noise that most homeowners never measure — but may experience through equipment issues, inefficiency, or discomfort.

 

In this interview, they discuss:

• What dirty electricity and EMI actually are

• How modern electronics, solar, and smart meters impact your wiring

• Why your breaker panel is the “first point of defense”

• The difference between filtering and shielding

• Practical, engineering-based mitigation strategies

• Why measuring before buying is critical This isn’t fear-based. It’s engineering. If you’re in solar, construction, energy consulting, or simply want to optimize your home’s electrical environment, this is a grounded, technical discussion worth watching.

 

Special Offer: Use code SENERGY360 for 15% off + free shipping at: 👉 https://www.saticshield.com/shop Clean power isn’t about eliminating electricity — it’s about optimizing it.

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Transcript

B.D. Erickson II: Hello. My name is BD Erickson, and I'm the CEO and a power systems engineer for a company called Sattic, known for making clean power products. And our our guest today is mister Brian Johnson of Synergy three six e o, or Synergy three sixty. Let's start that over. Our guest today is mister Brian Johnson, CEO of Synergy three sixty. And we met some time ago, because we are kindred spirits, and he is an expert in biohacking. And what I love about him is he melded, if you will, the biohacking with home building and engineering. Yeah. I'm not just biohacking myself. I wanna biohack the space so that those two things can work together for a better outcome. And if you guys know static and our stuff, boy, I I I could not possibly align more. So, Ryan, give us a minute. Tell us about yourself. Tell us about Synergy three sixty.

Brian Johnson: Absolute absolutely, BD, man. And and we're kinda we're kinda hosting each other on this whole this whole gig. So, awesome introduction and, opener for me. Hey, everyone. Brian with Senergy three sixty, at BD. That was perfect. You know, that's exactly what I did. I melded the, you know, biohack you know, at the time, I was big into the biohacking, so I called it merging the biohacking world into home building. Right? And this is gonna be a real fun story. So now I've kind of now I've refined it in, like, health and wellness and longevity and, you know, because a lot of people you know, some people mainstream too don't know what biohacking is. You know? So when we speak to, like, health and wellness and longevity, now we're grabbing the audience even though a lot of biohacking by default goes into that, you know, especially if that's kind of our background, you know? And, and, anyway, so that's that's exactly, you know, as my pitch and my approach to sharing with somebody, well, hey, what's a healthy home? Well, it's a home built for longevity using, you know, nontoxic building materials. We're really focused on, you know, healthy environments, you know, getting into you know, e even with the EMF aspect, you know, I wanna be able to speak to everybody. So I just don't come out guns a blazing right into the EMF. It's kinda knowing your crowd. You know? But, you know, I talk about, like, hey. It's, you know, it's very more sophisticated electrical systems, and we're using, you know, modern day low voltage systems with security systems and, you know, water filtration systems. And so I what I do is I just paint this really big picture of like, wow, that sounds pretty high-tech. What is that? And then I really go in there and I kinda start breaking it down for the clients of what what these all mean. And, actually, too, just to kind of share a little bit, you know, thank you for that intro too as far as, like, our connection and and what we bring together in the industry. And by the way, your your portfolio, your resume, and your background and a lot of engineers that I speak with, you know, you have a really impressive background, you know, in what you do. And you put out an amazing product, you know, diving deep into the building biology world. You know, you get to meet a lot of amazing people and you get to meet engineers and, you know, all all shapes and sizes of everybody in the industry. Right? And, of course, you know, me, Mary, and the whole biohacking thing, and this is where I'm gonna tie this piece into kind of where I'm at today, was, you know, on the biohack journey, it's always trying to understand and find these modalities and how we're going going to incorporate them. And then getting into the building biology and getting into that science, you meet all these different people. And what was so funny is I would say I know you guys been in business for what? Since 2008 for a long time. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Long time.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. For me. And and and you and man, you were just so far ahead of your time because, you know, they weren't even really talking about EMFs until I don't know, to me, the term hit me around 2015. K. You know? So I'm I'm That's

B.D. Erickson II: still pretty early. You're still pretty early adopter at that point.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. You know? And but it was kinda woo woo and kinda like, oh, you know, what's this whole EMF thing? And,

B.D. Erickson II: you know,

Brian Johnson: and, you know, what was one of the first products that I was turned on to was this static filters. You know, the, you know, the plug in filters, and it was like, oh, yeah. This is you know? But early on, people just said, oh, just reduces EMF. Like, it was nothing like no specific. Didn't even really understand, you know? And in the industry, a lot of people, you just, you know, not really kind of doing the deep understanding and research. You know, what some you know, and I'm not saying this is how the whole market was. But for me, I'm just like, oh, I'm gonna build you know, I'm gonna live in it, you know, before I went back to building. So I took a break between building from 2008 to about 2016. I kind of took this pause maybe a little bit later. Synergy three sixty excuse me, was born in 2018. That was because I took my background of building that I took that biohacking and then I put it together and then started building my spec home in '29 my spec homes in 2019. But, again, kind of like these different modalities, you know, people are you know, the portable air filters or Yeah. You know, the blue blocker, you know, light bulbs and, you know, the static filters. Right? Like, that was a thing. And and and so kinda it was interesting. So really doing the deep dive and then working with, like, engineers that I met through the building biology, and then here, building biology is really promoting static. You know, there and some other manufacturers too as well. And I was like, oh, yeah. Static filters. Yeah. I'd like to learn more, you know, about about about these even through the building biology. And so the building biology recognizes static as as a gold standard and really promotes your guys' product. And and, of course, you I'm I know you know this because they, you know, they had different building biologists, specialists building these different, you know, boards with all kinds of different, filters and testing. You know, they called it, what, the octopus board or something.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. They've done they've done a lot of qual you know, I didn't know that they thought that highly of this. Actually, you're giving me some compliments right now that I didn't know that I had coming. But I do see the reports. And, you know, stuff does usually perform very well near the top, if not the top on the studies they give to me. So that's a wonderful problem.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. No. And and the studies were pretty elaborate too. Like, I mean, you know, because I took their course. They have three courses, and one was called the electro EMRS, electromagnetic radiation specialist. And it's like an intense course. Right? Like Oh. And and even in part of the course, they were giving data, like, on all these different companies. And we'll go into this. You know? I know we're kinda leaving cliffhanger. Like, oh, what what is this? You know? But it was like, they're given all this data and this input on the reduction of, you know, dirty electricity, you know, harmonics and line noise and, you know, the effects from outside sources to inside sources and what your filters against the competitor filters are doing. They had all of they had your documentation that they were handing out to, like, students in the EMR escorts. Yeah. Yeah. No. They really did. And so so I walked away, and it was kinda cool. Right? Because here, I didn't really have an understanding other than I plug in the filter, I test the meter, I see a reduction, I'm lowering the EMF. Not even really knowing exactly what I'm lowering. And this is gonna be a great segue because I think this is perfect. Because even myself, I like to hear it from you exactly. Okay. We've got this broad term of EMF. Right. And some people don't really kind of understand the specific categories of that. And then we have this filter, static filter, whole house filters, plug in filters. And, you know, what are we treating, you know, and and why. You know? And so maybe you could kinda just share back with me, you know, even for our audience of that now that we've kind of really honed down. Okay. We're talking about EMFs. What what are we reducing? What are all these amazing numbers and engineers at building biology? What are they talking about?

B.D. Erickson II: So what I I'll answer that in two chunks. I'll respond with some of the things that I really love about your content. I have a tendency to get technical, and I don't ever wanna be preachy. Yep. But I I believe what I believe strongly, and so I come off as pretty passionate. And people don't wanna be spoken at. They wanna be spoken with. Yep. Yeah. And when I watch your content, you're conversational. The footage is pretty raw, which leads to genuinality, I feel. Yeah. Thank you. That just feels genuine. Right? But it's also technical. You're you're well spoken. You understand the concepts that you're speaking about, and then you've got some pretty complex meters to demonstrate it. And so Yeah. Just as a viewer, that content resonates with me. I don't like the really overproduced stuff. I don't want someone talking at me, and I like it when people say, this is what I have found. This is what I feel. This is what I believe. You don't need to think it. You don't need to believe it. You don't need to feel it. You're wherever you are on your journey. I mean, we're all that I I'm gonna say all be careful saying all or never. The vast majority of people that I know believe a lot differently and a lot of new things that Oh, yeah. That we just did five years ago. Right? Yeah. So the log of stuff that you do, I think, is just so pragmatic. Clean air. Well, who doesn't want clean air? Because even going back to Jimmy Carter, we wanted to clean the air, and you don't wanna stand by the bus and the big diesel cloud hits you. It's so common. We want a cleaner. Okay? So we're gonna do a good air filter and check that box.

Brian Johnson: Jimmy Carter was definitely onto something, man. Man, he was. And so He was an amazing man. That.

B.D. Erickson II: I don't I don't ever choose political parties. I said stay out of that. I think the whole game is rigged. So I don't care about that. Yeah. Yep.

Brian Johnson: But what he what what he was doing and the legacy that he continued way beyond the presidency, the guy was just a habitat here for humanity. Oh my goodness. He was a builder. He was a craftsman. He was an amazing man.

B.D. Erickson II: Amazing man and a country boy. And and and and I'm a country boy. And he I remember him saying, I was probably seven or eight years old. I lived in Helena, Montana, and I remember watching on the TV Americans. We got a band again. We gotta turn off lights. We gotta drive 55. And as a little boy, I was in. I wanted to help the country. I wanted my dad to drive 55, and I would turn off lights, and I wasn't in the room. It landed on me. And I think because at some level, all healthy people, we wanna be a good custodian. Now that's different than going climate change or, you know, be a hippie and you're living in Oregon and you're composting your hair.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: That's one level of it. But the

Brian Johnson: other extremes.

B.D. Erickson II: Right? The other level is if I'm enjoying a camping trip in Glacier Park, would I leave my garbage? Never. If we're rafting the Clark Fork Clark Fork River and a can falls out, which they occasionally do. It's Yep. Hands on deck to fish it out.

Brian Johnson: Yep. You grab it.

B.D. Erickson II: Another can, you fish it out. And so you don't have to be a climate activist Yeah. To just naturally be a good custodian. And I think most of us, we

Brian Johnson: want Leave no trace.

B.D. Erickson II: You wanna be a good custodian. Yeah. Right? You wanna be. So then that that's a very natural thing. And so, what comes to mind for me is clean water, clean air, clean electricity, clean views, even get into clean laundry. I mean, I think these are pretty simple pragmatic things Mhmm. That if given our choice, given our druthers, we would all choose the better for ourselves, but somebody has to do it. Somebody has to kinda lead the path, show you a path, and make it kind of easy. And what we've done for dirty electricity is

Brian Johnson: I like how you're setting this up too for filtering. Right? Because we're filtering air, we filter water, and now we're filtering electricity. I use this analogy all the time. So, yeah, this is cool. Keep going.

B.D. Erickson II: That's that's exactly what it is. We're just also filtering it. Everything has a frequency and a vibration and an an electromagnetic field. Well, the earth does. Of course, it does. It's human frequency, and it's healing. Right? So they talk about grounding. Well, grounding's a couple of things. It's not just that free change of electrons through bare feet. It's also vibrating at Schumann. Schumann Resonance. Yeah. I talk about water. I talk about water all the time because if you're, you know, reading Imamoto and his stuff, believe it or not, when you have surface water, it's getting hit with five g all day. The idea that that wouldn't impact its frequency is naive Yep. Which is also conductor. Right? You don't stand in a puddle while you do your electrical system. It's Mhmm. Versus well water at 200 feet vibrating at Schumann. Yeah. And so what we say very simply is just because you can't see magnetism, everyone that's played with magnets, they're I don't they're fantastic. I don't care if you're five or 55. They're awesome. You just feel the middle of it, and they push away in this magnetic force. And so you not being able to smell it, hear it, see it, taste it, doesn't make it unreal. Yeah. It's what the Bible calls self evident. Yeah. It's beyond contestation. It simply is self evident. It is what it is. And so if the EMFs if our our frequency and everything is free frequency vibration and sound Yeah. You know events. Right? That don't you want that too if it's gonna be permeating your home?

Brian Johnson: Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: You're gonna put your head right by it at night. You're gonna put your head right by those wires. You don't want those in good vibration? Of course, you do.

Brian Johnson: They're harmless, man. You you don't see anything except for an outlet. Right? You you you brought up the I like that, you know, with doctor Emoto's work, you know, being exposed to, like, frequencies and five g's. Like, you know, that's water. What what? We're are we not 80% water? You know?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. Until they chemtrail you with aluminum

Brian Johnson: Yeah. And I'm in

B.D. Erickson II: water, and I'm breathing aluminum. Now I'm a superconductor. That's not that's that's highly intentional, and I don't I'll I'll be careful on what I say to some degree. Yeah. But when you when you ingest something that resides in you, and we all know we need to have a metal detox. Why? Because they're in us. And if I really am a water big, which is a conductor, adding aluminum and adding to metal, that will impact, negative harmonics, frequencies, vibrations on my Mhmm. Because they will start to shake at that vibration. That's what antennas do.

Brian Johnson: Yep. Yeah. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll I'll we'll get into the dirty electricity part, but I'll share this is why I'm this is why I'm building bubbles.

B.D. Erickson II: K.

Brian Johnson: You know? Because, you know, there's that one space that you know? Know, where's the one place that we wanna be able to go to to not so much hide, but, to be that safe haven, you know, sleep to restore

B.D. Erickson II: Rejuvenate.

Brian Johnson: To re rejuvenate, to rehabilitate, you know, and to get back to a place of homeostasis. And that is that is our that is our home. Yeah. You know? And that's why, you know, me as a a builder, that's the big focus is, you know, people are like, yeah. But you you go outside and, you know, we don't not even getting into chemtrails or anything like that, but it's like, hey. We're going outside. We're being bombarded by all these you know, the term would be electro smog, but, you know, people are using different terms.

B.D. Erickson II: Heat pollution.

Brian Johnson: You know? Like, what what does it matter? Like, why are you putting all this money into the space? I'm like, because that's the one space you're going to heal, and that's the one place that you wanna be able to separate yourself from. But yeah. Anyways I

B.D. Erickson II: spend most of your time, and people are working from home. And I tell people, it's you know, some people, if you're really EHS hypersensitive Yeah. And maybe being in an airport is too much for you for most of us. It's not in small doses. Yeah. Right? And so you can visit the city and and then have your five g phone and then do the things and suffer from some toxicity from it. Yeah. And then get out of it unless it is better in toxicity. Right? And then get to home where you're spending most of your time. We're robust. We are creatures. We can detox. We can do things like that. So you want a home where you're having as little, none, ideally, but that's kind of hard to escape, as little as possible so that you don't spend most of your state in a state of overexposure.

Brian Johnson: Exactly. And you don't have to be unhealthy even though you don't feel it, even though you don't see it. You don't have to be unhealthy for the effects to actually eventually start to take their toll because they're they're they're playing. They're they're playing in the background, you know, so why not you know, again, I was an elite Ironman and all these types of things. So my goal as a biohacker was

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah.

Brian Johnson: Hey. I wanna recover faster. Yep. Because because I I wanna train more Harder. And train harder, and I wanna be on that podium. That means I gotta train a lot. Right? So not not the best thing, and I'm not condoning that here promoting it. However, that was my point of view of creating this healthy environment. So, yeah, I'm an athlete, but I'm I'm constantly breaking my body down. I'm constantly breaking that body down. And all of these exposures and I have a quite a story to share to that, but all of those exposures, they they wear you they wear you down. And then so whether you're sick, whether you're battling symptoms, or whether you're an athlete overtraining or whatever, these things are playing a big role in the background.

B.D. Erickson II: That's right. It's like people say, well, how how dangerous are they? How bad are they for you? Well, not as bad as backing up into a whirling propeller. That's worse. Right? That's that's immediately bad for you in a big way. Right? But but how about processed food? You don't die the day you eat it, but you're not energized by it. You're not Yeah. By it. Yeah. Eating hot dogs, drinking too much booze, smoking cigarettes. These things these things don't kill you in this in the moment. No. They break you down, and they don't add. Right? They they they take away, and they show you processed food and stuff.

Brian Johnson: But what he what what he was doing and the legacy that he continued way beyond the presidency, the guy was just a habitat here for humanity. Oh my goodness. He was a builder. He was a craftsman. He was an amazing man.

B.D. Erickson II: Amazing man and a country boy. And and and and I'm a country boy. And he I remember him saying, I was probably seven or eight years old. I lived in Helena, Montana, and I remember watching on the TV Americans. We got a band again. We gotta turn off lights. We gotta drive 55. And as a little boy, I was in. I wanted to help the country. I wanted my dad to drive 55, and I would turn off lights, and I wasn't in the room. It landed on me. And I think because at some level, all healthy people, we wanna be a good custodian. Now that's different than going climate change or, you know, be a hippie and you're living in Oregon and you're composting your hair.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: That's one level of it. But the

Brian Johnson: other extremes.

B.D. Erickson II: Right? The other level is if I'm enjoying a camping trip in Glacier Park, would I leave my garbage? Never. If we're rafting the Clark Fork Clark Fork River and a can falls out, which they occasionally do. It's Yep. Hands on deck to fish it out.

Brian Johnson: Yep. You grab it.

B.D. Erickson II: Another can, you fish it out. And so you don't have to be a climate activist Yeah. To just naturally be a good custodian. And I think most of us, we

Brian Johnson: want Leave no trace.

B.D. Erickson II: You wanna be a good custodian. Yeah. Right? You wanna be. So then that that's a very natural thing. And so, what comes to mind for me is clean water, clean air, clean electricity, clean views, even get into clean laundry. I mean, I think these are pretty simple pragmatic things Mhmm. That if given our choice, given our druthers, we would all choose the better for ourselves, but somebody has to do it. Somebody has to kinda lead the path, show you a path, and make it kind of easy. And what we've done for dirty electricity is

Brian Johnson: I like how you're setting this up too for filtering. Right? Because we're filtering air, we filter water, and now we're filtering electricity. I use this analogy all the time. So, yeah, this is cool. Keep going.

B.D. Erickson II: That's that's exactly what it is. We're just also filtering it. Everything has a frequency and a vibration and an an electromagnetic field. Well, the earth does. Of course, it does. It's human frequency, and it's healing. Right? So they talk about grounding. Well, grounding's a couple of things. It's not just that free change of electrons through bare feet. It's also vibrating at Schumann. Schumann Resonance. Yeah. I talk about water. I talk about water all the time because if you're, you know, reading Imamoto and his stuff, believe it or not, when you have surface water, it's getting hit with five g all day. The idea that that wouldn't impact its frequency is naive Yep. Which is also conductor. Right? You don't stand in a puddle while you do your electrical system. It's Mhmm. Versus well water at 200 feet vibrating at Schumann. Yeah. And so what we say very simply is just because you can't see magnetism, everyone that's played with magnets, they're I don't they're fantastic. I don't care if you're five or 55. They're awesome. You just feel the middle of it, and they push away in this magnetic force. And so you not being able to smell it, hear it, see it, taste it, doesn't make it unreal. Yeah. It's what the Bible calls self evident. Yeah. It's beyond contestation. It simply is self evident. It is what it is. And so if the EMFs if our our frequency and everything is free frequency vibration and sound Yeah. You know events. Right? That don't you want that too if it's gonna be permeating your home?

Brian Johnson: Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: You're gonna put your head right by it at night. You're gonna put your head right by those wires. You don't want those in good vibration? Of course, you do.

Brian Johnson: They're harmless, man. You you don't see anything except for an outlet. Right? You you you brought up the I like that, you know, with doctor Emoto's work, you know, being exposed to, like, frequencies and five g's. Like, you know, that's water. What what? We're are we not 80% water? You know?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. Until they chemtrail you with aluminum

Brian Johnson: Yeah. And I'm in

B.D. Erickson II: water, and I'm breathing aluminum. Now I'm a superconductor. That's not that's that's highly intentional, and I don't I'll I'll be careful on what I say to some degree. Yeah. But when you when you ingest something that resides in you, and we all know we need to have a metal detox. Why? Because they're in us. And if I really am a water big, which is a conductor, adding aluminum and adding to metal, that will impact, negative harmonics, frequencies, vibrations on my Mhmm. Because they will start to shake at that vibration. That's what antennas do.

Brian Johnson: Yep. Yeah. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'll I'll we'll get into the dirty electricity part, but I'll share this is why I'm this is why I'm building bubbles.

B.D. Erickson II: K.

Brian Johnson: You know? Because, you know, there's that one space that you know? Know, where's the one place that we wanna be able to go to to not so much hide, but, to be that safe haven, you know, sleep to restore

B.D. Erickson II: Rejuvenate.

Brian Johnson: To re rejuvenate, to rehabilitate, you know, and to get back to a place of homeostasis. And that is that is our that is our home. Yeah. You know? And that's why, you know, me as a a builder, that's the big focus is, you know, people are like, yeah. But you you go outside and, you know, we don't not even getting into chemtrails or anything like that, but it's like, hey. We're going outside. We're being bombarded by all these you know, the term would be electro smog, but, you know, people are using different terms.

B.D. Erickson II: Heat pollution.

Brian Johnson: You know? Like, what what does it matter? Like, why are you putting all this money into the space? I'm like, because that's the one space you're going to heal, and that's the one place that you wanna be able to separate yourself from. But yeah. Anyways I

B.D. Erickson II: spend most of your time, and people are working from home. And I tell people, it's you know, some people, if you're really EHS hypersensitive Yeah. And maybe being in an airport is too much for you for most of us. It's not in small doses. Yeah. Right? And so you can visit the city and and then have your five g phone and then do the things and suffer from some toxicity from it. Yeah. And then get out of it unless it is better in toxicity. Right? And then get to home where you're spending most of your time. We're robust. We are creatures. We can detox. We can do things like that. So you want a home where you're having as little, none, ideally, but that's kind of hard to escape, as little as possible so that you don't spend most of your state in a state of overexposure.

Brian Johnson: Exactly. And you don't have to be unhealthy even though you don't feel it, even though you don't see it. You don't have to be unhealthy for the effects to actually eventually start to take their toll because they're they're they're playing. They're they're playing in the background, you know, so why not you know, again, I was an elite Ironman and all these types of things. So my goal as a biohacker was

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah.

Brian Johnson: Hey. I wanna recover faster. Yep. Because because I I wanna train more Harder. And train harder, and I wanna be on that podium. That means I gotta train a lot. Right? So not not the best thing, and I'm not condoning that here promoting it. However, that was my point of view of creating this healthy environment. So, yeah, I'm an athlete, but I'm I'm constantly breaking my body down. I'm constantly breaking that body down. And all of these exposures and I have a quite a story to share to that, but all of those exposures, they they wear you they wear you down. And then so whether you're sick, whether you're battling symptoms, or whether you're an athlete overtraining or whatever, these things are playing a big role in the background.

B.D. Erickson II: That's right. It's like people say, well, how how dangerous are they? How bad are they for you? Well, not as bad as backing up into a whirling propeller. That's worse. Right? That's that's immediately bad for you in a big way. Right? But but how about processed food? You don't die the day you eat it, but you're not energized by it. You're not Yeah. By it. Yeah. Eating hot dogs, drinking too much booze, smoking cigarettes. These things these things don't kill you in this in the moment. No. They break you down, and they don't add. Right? They they they take away, and they show you processed food and stuff.

Brian Johnson: They take it's too late. You hit 60 years old. You're like, oh, man. I'm symptomatic. Oh,

B.D. Erickson II: well, oh,

Brian Johnson: it's because it was genetic or, you know, my dad had this or my you know, like, no.

B.D. Erickson II: No. No. And so if you're doing those things, then then clean air and clean water and healthy food and EMF and dirty electricity and less exposure to the wire the wireless kind, the four g, five g, DirecTV, dish network.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Radio frequencies. Radio frequency.

B.D. Erickson II: We're just getting bombarded.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. No. Even if

B.D. Erickson II: it doesn't kill you in the second, it's bad for you. Let's just try to have a life where we can spend less time being overexposed to it.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: And how you can intelligently argue that you're not healthier without that, I'd love to hear it. Yep. You know? And so when people say it's not bad for you, that's not a conversation I'll have because that conversation is below me, I think, at this point in where I am just in my learning. When they can say how bad, well, that's a conversation we can have. Yes. Bad for you, but is it really bad enough to be worried about? Well, that's a fair conversation.

Brian Johnson: But it's it's

B.D. Erickson II: not bad for you at all. You can't see the grass in their power lines. You don't know that cows don't bump into electric fences, not because people think that a cow hits the fence. He bites him. He doesn't like it. He learns they're not that clever. Okay? They're not it throws off a four foot field. That's why it only has to be one strand Yeah. Two foot off the ground. Yeah. It puts out a field. It's out a field. Like it. Yeah. He moves up. No dairy cow has ever been hit by an electric fence. They hate it.

Brian Johnson: And and and just to add to that too, it's kinda like going back thousands of years ago, like, in Rome, you know, and, like, in all of these you know, when they're, getting ready to create a new city or a village. Right? They would let all their sheep and all of the animals roam out and wherever they would gravitate to, that was where they would build any places that they would avoid. You know, this kinda gets into a different perspective, but it still part ties the pita piece of the EML from the DC, the Earth's magnetic fields, you know, treat these anomalies that are less desirable. So if the animals didn't gravitate to that area, there was weird formations with trees and things like that that they knew that was the areas to stay away from them.

B.D. Erickson II: Follow nature. One of those one of those is is in Montana by Glacier Park where the trees grow sideways and and all that stuff. Those those places exist. Yeah. Yeah. But the but the reality is follow nature, and and none of us inherently just just inherently wants the power lines over your house. Just don't. You don't want the five g tower on the roof of your house. You just don't. Mom said, don't sit close too close to the TV. She was right. She wasn't an engineer. She had mom's tuition, which is we don't which is real. He was right. Right? And so now we're we're we're as we biohack, as we're looking at peptides and nutrition and hormones and all the things that have really been depleted, I think, nefariously, really been depleted. We're looking at putting those things back. And as we look at putting nutrition in and healthy things in, I think our conversation is really about lessening than the overexposure to the man made stuff that's bad.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. In in in the building biology world, they call it, nature where they say nature is the gold standard. I I I I kinda stole that phrase. I use it all the time. Yep. You know, because, again, you know, we're building my my methods of building is is kind of we're trying to mimic mother nature as much as possible. You know? The the EMF is, you know, that's air quality for me is like a kinda like the number one. You know? It's obviously good performance structure, then it's air quality, then EMF is is is, it's third on my list. They're all big factors here. So but when I look at it, that's the order. And if you don't mind, let's go into dirty electricity. But I wanna kinda like I wanna set it up like this. And and please, you know, share your thoughts. You know, this is just you and I kinda talk and shop here. But when I so if I'm if I was to explain EMFs to somebody, I'm like, I say, hey, electromagnetic frequencies is broken down into this is me. I break it down into four categories. And please just interject or add anything. I start off with number one. It's the electrical field. It's the it's that 110 power coming in or two twenty, you know, coming into the home, which gives us exposure. Our 60 Hertz cycle gives us exposure to electricity. We're not, you know, if you want power to your home, you know, you're going to have that. Right. But you know, it's an electrical field. So we kind of wanted, we wanted distance, like you said, right in the beginning, don't sleep right next to an electrical outlet because, you know, at, at, at in close proximity, you're going to be exposed to a little bit of an AC magnetic field, but of course the electrical field. And because you said, you know, we both agreed that we're 80% water, you know, we were conductors, right? So if we're sleeping around all of these outlets and I'm kind of painting a picture here for kind of towards the end, we can go and bring this together, But, basically, we're just exposed to these electrical fields, so it's like we're just buzzing. Right? Is it is it is it is is an electrical field bad for you? In my opinion, I haven't seen any research specifically that electric, fields other than it keeps the body from kind of getting to a place of relaxation or homeostasis. It's just the body's just absorbing this energy. Right? And and I'll I'll paint this out. So then the next one would be electrical AC magnetic fields, which is kind of like, and again, you're you have a more way more extensive background to me than electrical and engineering, but it's basically kind of the byproduct by and and and and you're gonna have to correct me on this because I'll say AC magnetic fields is a byproduct of the electrical fields coming in, whether it's from high tension power lines, whether it's from, you know, mechanical devices in a home, a transformer, a refrigerator, anything that has a motor, you know, wiring, the spacing of wiring or the routing of wiring does create a level of it could be a minimal amount of AC magnetic fields, or it could be a pretty large field of AC magnetic fields, which is researched by the bio initiative report, the World Health Organization to be like the silent killer. Do you have anything to add to that?

B.D. Erickson II: Oh, yeah. This is my life's work, baby. Yeah. I do. So

Brian Johnson: And and by the way, there's two more that I didn't get into, but I wanna I wanna have you kinda go through. Hey. Do you want me to share the next two, or do you wanna kinda answer those two to start and kinda that that way, it'll kinda set the groundwork?

B.D. Erickson II: I'm taking notes, so give me the next two.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. So then, of course so we'll we'll circle back on that. And then, of course, the third one, and I again, I break them into three categories is electrical or excuse me, radio frequencies.

B.D. Erickson II: Yep.

Brian Johnson: Right? So from cellular towers or radars or, you know, wireless devices, Bluetooth, five g, four g, three g was pretty low level signal, all the way to the wireless, you know, routers, baby monitors, you know, wireless Walkie talkies. Walkie talkies. Right? Like so these are all radio frequencies, you know. Some put out a very high, you know, high bandwidth, a very high strength. Some are lower power but still put out high frequencies. And again, you know, the simple remedy for that is to not have them, you know, and we can talk about ways that we can control that. So that's radio frequencies. That's the third one. And then, of course, I put, you know, dirty electricity is kind of like the fourth one for me, because it's the one that a lot of people don't quite understand as much, this dirty electricity. Well, what is it? It's the electrical magnetic interference, which creates, like, disharmonics and all of this noise, and it travels through the entire electrical system. It can affect the grounding system. It's it its sources are, you know, the grid power coming in. It's also technologies throughout the home, throughout neighboring homes. So now, you know, it's through the electrical system. Now we're it it's basically the the pipeline, the plumbing that allows all of this dirty electricity to flow into the home. And then, of course, all of the different technologies like AC power supplies and adapters and, you know, different technologies through the dimmers, through the home. Now they become these sources or, you know, even, you know, these, these inverter low the, you know, these heat pumps, these inverter style heat pumps. Right? So these different technologies that we're creating within the home, but yet we're feeding all of this dirty electrical magnetic interference into the home. So, basically, now we're swimming in this whole soup of this dirty electricity. So that's kinda my spill on these these four, forms of EMFs that I usually kind of explain to people on a high level.

B.D. Erickson II: I think this is gonna be a great show. I don't know if anybody will watch it. Couple of nerds like me and you.

Brian Johnson: God, I hope you guys are watching this. This is good stuff.

B.D. Erickson II: It's gonna be a great show because, yeah, we're gonna take those four in chunks. So as I move electricity down a conductor, energy in the form of alternating current, as as you have voltage, and voltage in the wakes that go from here to here. Voltage is pressure. Electricity kinda works on a vacuum. Right? It's low pressure pulls from high pressure. That's that's voltage. And the voltage creates the electrical field. So even if I've got a 120 volts, if I've only got, like, zero zero one amps, I have the electrical field because I have that potential, which is voltage. Right? Voltage is potential. Number two, as I push current down it now, I use that voltage and current, that creates the magnetic field. And then you end up with this electromagnetic. Right? And so that's that's the guy.

Brian Johnson: And it's and it spins like in a it spins in what what form? Like a clockwise or counter clock or is it a clockwise or counterclockwise form?

B.D. Erickson II: You know, I don't remember. In my mind, it's clockwise, but it doesn't really travel down the wire, actually. It travels around the wire. It's very

Brian Johnson: Right. Yeah. Around the wire. But then you have, like, you have your your common and your hot wire. Right. And so

B.D. Erickson II: those one goes this way. Right?

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: One goes this way.

Brian Johnson: Okay. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. And then those two are the convergence of the electric field and the magnetic field. Then as you get the electromagnetic field, which is three d now.

Brian Johnson: I love the visual. This is guys, this is good because now we're creating the visual of this field.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. And then now we've got this field. So fields, fields and frequencies are the cosmos. You would call it source, call it God, and and care. Everything has a frequency and a vibration, and some are very healing. Some are very good for you because your body is one. Your body has a natural frequency. Mhmm. So if you hit your body with something that's in a natural frequency that that rhymes with you, that's like music.

Brian Johnson: Mhmm.

B.D. Erickson II: Frequency together creates harmony, and harmony is music, and harmony is beautiful

Brian Johnson: in our Mhmm.

B.D. Erickson II: Do the thing. If they're out of frequency, that's noise. Noise is not calming. Noise is disruptive. It makes us angst. It makes us angry or uptight or you turn it down. Turn it down. Right? Where music, you say turn it up. Right? Noise, you say turn it down. It's the exact same thing, but the frequencies are in harmony. And, like, the Earth's frequency of Schumann is in harmony with all living creatures on Earth. Humans love to live by water. The vast majority of mankind lives by water. Well, part of that is by no doubt the ions in that positive earth human frequency. Okay? Mhmm. So as this energy moves in the form of a wave, a wave has two major fundamental qualities. K? The number one is energy, much energy is in this wave. Number two, frequency. Frequency is very simple. How many times does something click in one minute? The more times it clicks in a minute, the higher the frequency. And the wave's energy, it's like this. If you've been to a lake and the ski boats go by or it's kind of a windy day, those waves aren't very tall, and they crash on the beach, and they crash preregulate. So they're low energy, but they're higher frequency. Now you're sitting on North Shore Of Oahu. It's pipeline week. You're there to watch either Ironman or we're there to watch, you know, Quicksilver's got the the surfing championship. Those waves suck out. Like, it seems like a doesn't you just it it can't possibly keep going out farther. You see all this sand, and then this huge wave comes and it crashes and, boy, howdy, if you're in that, god love it. Right? So that has a lower frequency, but it has a higher energy. Mhmm. Alright? So now you've got this alternating current, and it's gonna have two things. Depending on how much current is going through it, that's how much energy, and then the electricity itself has a primary frequency of 60 hertz. Okay. So let's say I'm gonna gonna punch you on the arm. So I'm gonna punch you on the arm. It has two aspects. How hard I punch you or am I just tapping you? That's energy. And then how many times am I gonna do it? Now even if I do it pretty light, over time, you're gonna go, back it up. It's gonna start to bruise. It's gonna start to be uncomfortable. Right? Now if I move that around well, that's a massage, Brian. I'm charging $60 an hour for that. Right? So what happens at night, number one, putting our head by the wall. Yep. We're inside that field now.

Brian Johnson: Mhmm.

B.D. Erickson II: For one, it's hitting us at a frequency that isn't music. It's noise. Yeah. It's not ease. It's disease. Right? And I'm not moving, so it's hitting me in the same time Yeah. Over and over and over.

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: So one of the things that we get almost immediately with either our plug in filters that remove it all except for primary. It's still electrical frequency, still not super healthy,

Brian Johnson: but Right.

B.D. Erickson II: Nearest healthy not nearest unhealthy as the dirty electricity Okay. Because of the terrible frequencies in multiple frequencies. Right? And we put a piece of field shield behind the bed because as you mentioned before, if your water and a little bit of aluminum and mercury, you become the conductor. Now we know two things about electricity that we learned in fifth grade, and there there's some good always and nevers. Electricity will follow the path of least resistance Yeah. And it'll make its way to ground. So our field shield plugs in or or goes behind the bed and then plugs into ground. So now it's a much easier path of less resistance. It will always choose it. It will always choose the path of least resistance. It's no longer you. You're not really offering a path to ground. The fuel shield is plugged into ground.

Brian Johnson: Mhmm.

B.D. Erickson II: We've created a path of least resistance in a way to ground. It's always gonna choose head over you. Yep. Right? Number one. And so you can put your head now safely by the bed because the field that's coming out is landing on the field chill and going down. And just with our plug in or wire in units, you have one you have two waves, the voltage wave and the amperage wave. Two waves at 60 hertz. That's a frequency, and that's giving you a little punch, but nothing like when you're building when your home wiring becomes a super antenna. Where does power where do where do fields and signals land? It land on antennas. So now you have five g, four g, three g, LTE, DISH Network, DIRECTV, your printer, my printer, her phone, the FBI band. You have all these signals now, landing on the electrical system. It's noise. It's not music. Yep. It's not healing. It's damaging, and I'll just stick my head in it now for eight hours.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. How

B.D. Erickson II: would you possibly get good sleep like that?

Brian Johnson: All of these frequencies. These different frequencies. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: All of them. So in a very simple term, static attempts, it's very best to just get you to the the voltage and the amperage waves

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: 60 hertz Yep. One frequency. Europe's better at 50. 50 would be ideal, but do it at 60 hertz and then the one. You've you've gone from eating a full McDonald's lunch to having fro. Mhmm. Yep. You went from a whole bottle of gin to one single gin and tonic. Yeah. Still perfect. It's not. But I think if you eat one fry on a on a road trip, it's a lot better than sitting down to a happy meal.

Brian Johnson: And and and we're talking about all of the technologies that are affected. That that's why you said all these different things. This printer, this, that, the other. Exactly.

B.D. Erickson II: You know,

Brian Johnson: where the static's it's filtering that out just out, bare that that clean that clean 60 hertz cycle that that's delivering power into the home. And and we'll talk about strategies even for eliminating that, but, this is definitely

B.D. Erickson II: And so that's three and four. So number three is RF. It's coming from everywhere. We're landing on antennas. Mhmm. Let's get you detoxed. Let's do a heavy metal detox view, make you less of an antenna, and let's clean it off your wiring system, which is your antenna. And then let's turn some stuff off for goodness sakes. Turn your router off. Turn your Wi Fi off. Now we all well, nobody wants to live in a cave. I'm not moving to Oregon to compost my hair. I want my iPhone, but I use it intelligently. I don't stick it in my pocket, carry it on my body. And when I wanna download or update, I Uh-huh. Turn it on. I download or update. When I'm in the other room, I go in and I do it. Because you can have one fry on a road trip.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: You don't sit down and eat three mac three big macs. It's different.

Brian Johnson: Now the the shield, you're referring to your plug in shield. Right? The the

B.D. Erickson II: We have we have two products. We have the filters that come in plug in. Should have my toys here.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. We gotta see the toys.

B.D. Erickson II: And wire in, baby. Yeah. The big flagship wire.

Brian Johnson: Those those are those those are sweet. But Every home has to have one of those, by the way, everyone, when we complete this call.

B.D. Erickson II: Everybody has to have when we complete the call. And here's our generation one plug in going back sixteen years, and he'll show up on a meter like this. We can do a really quick demonstration. Yeah.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yep. Let's do we'll do

B.D. Erickson II: We can't forget this trusty meter, old mister Trifield. This one's not even out of the package yet.

Brian Johnson: Hey. Hey. Believe it or not, it's funny. I've tested the, the electrical field and, the AC magnetic field on that TF two, and it actually measures pretty accurate compared to it's not perfect, but it measures within range of, like, a a professional $3,000 meter, everyone. So

B.D. Erickson II: For the for the dough, so I don't these are made in in, in Utah by Alpha Labs. I love I worked with their old engineer, Eugene, on designing some other meters, and they're a great company. For the dough, it's close.

Brian Johnson: Oh, it's it's super close. The RF, I just this is my take, man. Just don't even waste your time with the RF function on that meter because this is gonna tell you that there's RF. You know? Like, it just bounces all over its place. Anyways, you know? Yep. Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: It's all Hey.

Brian Johnson: It's here. It's here.

B.D. Erickson II: It's here. You know?

Brian Johnson: You know? When when I have clients, they'll read, hey. I was using my TF two and they are on the RF, but now use it for your electrical fields and your magnetic fields. Perfect. I I have to if I'm gonna work with somebody remotely, you gotta have the TF two and you gotta have those two settings. But then I recommend, the, Safe and Sound Pro two by Safe Living Technologies to measure the just the RF. But, anyways, hey. The shield, you're you're

B.D. Erickson II: So that'll be the shield. This is a demo portion of it, and this is a nine layer drip nine layer dip. So it is a 99.9% polished aluminum from the Alcoa company quality, and then it's a closed cell polyethylene foam, which is rubber. It's a resistor. Right? And there's a reason for that because you wanna build up that field. Then it's another sheet of aluminum, a conductor, and then we crush Shungite. I get loads, kilos of beautiful Shungite from Russia. Mhmm. And we mix it into the famous y s f y h y field carbon paint.

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: That paint in five gallon drums right from Germany. I ship it all over. We crush our shungite, and then we mix it into our white shield paint.

Brian Johnson: Awesome.

B.D. Erickson II: With one more secret ingredient. And then we slathered on, baby. We paint it thick. And then we do another layer of this on top, and then it has to be grounded. So it has an alligator clip and then a a male end that just plugs right into on your outlet. You've got your two blades in your ground Mhmm. In the ground for a secure fit. And now on this meter, buddy, it will go to zero.

Brian Johnson: Really?

B.D. Erickson II: Not point one. I can't really put you up. Yeah. Brian, not point one. Goes to zero. So then you put that where you need to sleep. And if you have a darn smart meter, then you put this on the wall opposite inside Yep. Opposite. A radiation doesn't turn corners. Radiation can only go straight, so it can't wrap around it. So you only need a piece about this big, and it completely blocks the smart meter from your home.

Brian Johnson: You could even put that behind some artwork or something or you know? And then hang up the poster

B.D. Erickson II: if you're 19. Get it beyond yes. Exactly. Exactly correct. Yeah.

Brian Johnson: Is that I just have to ask this for the audience here. Is it low VOC, nontoxic, that shield?

B.D. Erickson II: You can eat it. You'd you'd just pass it. You just eat the same way it came in.

Brian Johnson: Okay. No odors, odorless We don't bind it.

B.D. Erickson II: We don't bind it with glue. We bind it with heat.

Brian Johnson: Okay. So so

B.D. Erickson II: plastic will melt, and so we just melt them together with heat. And it only takes about a 125 degrees

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: To get them warm enough. Yeah. So there is no Okay.

Brian Johnson: There's no So it's a non toxic shield. Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: There's no glue. It is it is Shungite, carbon paint, aluminum, and some polyethylene foam.

Brian Johnson: Okay. Awesome. Yeah. It's an important question that people will ask. Now could you take this shield and put it behind your drywall? So if you're, like, remodeling the home.

B.D. Erickson II: Absolutely. So the very first thing so when we when we realized that living under power lines was hurting my son, the first thing that we did was get a a very cheap version of this called radiant barrier, and that was the main development of this, which is just aluminum. Some have two and three pieces, but it was just aluminum. And we rolled it out in our attic, eve to eve, gable to gable, stapled it together, bound it together, and grounded it. And, Brian, the minute we grounded it, the house was quiet for my little boy for the first time two years we'd lived there. So for him, quiet met no more tinnitus.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Wow.

B.D. Erickson II: In the ears. Wow. Right? Less angst. It's like when when something's in frequency, it's music. When something's out of frequency or harmony, it's noise. It it he wasn't constantly being bartered with the noise. And so Yeah. It feels to people at DHS, quieter and calmer. So we we sell this less less expensive versions in Hue Hue Jones. If you wanna do your attic

Brian Johnson: Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: To do your walls or whatever else, we sell it for as low as 75¢ a square foot

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: In big time locations if you need if you need roles, if you're really trying to do the house.

Brian Johnson: So is it going to shield, like, so could you use it in place of, like, the g iron? You know, like, so a g iron, which is it's like a what a like, kind of a let different alloys in this iron material that you would put behind your electrical panel. So say, for example, the architects did a bad design and you have a sub panel or you have an electrical panel next to your, you know, in your sleeping area next to your bed. You know? It's crazy. I still see that. And so one of the, you know, one of the big workarounds that I do do on I don't try to get into too much remodels, but we will use that g iron to block the AC magnetic fields. Will will this help, or does that have any effect on, like, a strong AC magnetic field from an electrical panel?

B.D. Erickson II: So this is great for the electric field in the RF.

Brian Johnson: Okay. Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: Electric field in RF. Magnetic fields are tougher. You got it. Yeah.

Brian Johnson: I that that's why the g irons, it it's a pretty it's some pretty heavy duty expensive material, no doubt too. So but okay. So if you're we'll kinda we'll kinda get into this a little bit later, but, you know, obviously so we talk more 80% water. We're absorbing that electrical field. We're absorbing those frequencies. You know, say you take your TF two and you're in a room and you measure say it's a low say it's a low e field and a low magnetic field. But again, if we were to do a body voltage test in that, that could show something completely different because even though we have a low, reading on our TF two, if we were to do body voltage, we could still be absorbing energy from other sources, you know, the wiring in the wall. Yeah. You know, I'm kinda splitting hairs on this, but it but it is a thing if we really wanna get to that.

B.D. Erickson II: Oh, yeah. It's that human antenna effect.

Brian Johnson: That that quiet environment. Right? So Yeah. This so if I was to use that shield and say say there's a room and it is just again, it's not strong, but there's just this field that's airborne and it's ray raising my body voltage, I'm guessing that shield would reduce that.

B.D. Erickson II: Massively. So when so so my my brother and sister-in-law have been married thirty years since he was just out of high school and he was in college. She couldn't she couldn't have children. So it is what it is. They've been together for five years. They're happy. They have a great relationship. She comes home one day, and I don't mean to tell her secrets. She comes home at Ford and goes, guess what, you nerds? I'm pregnant. So hallelujah.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. We're

B.D. Erickson II: all old now, but we're gonna have a baby's gonna Yeah. Okay? So the first thing that we did in his house, in his room, is we did all the walls, pulled out the carpet. We did the floor. We did the walls.

Brian Johnson: 2nd Story.

B.D. Erickson II: The ceiling is 2nd Story. Yeah. Mhmm. Yep. He he's upstairs. Painted it with YF, HF shield paint from Germany, put up field shield, grounded it, and then did beautiful, you know, hardwood flooring, re sheetrocked, re taped in paint. And I'm telling you, that that room is so clean. It's like a deprivation chamber. It is odd. It is oddly quiet.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: They get a big zero on everything in there. Wow. The drapes that we use, I got some really good, EMF, RF absorbing drapes

Brian Johnson: that we Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: To cover it. You just don't want some light in the room.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: And it's it is it is absolutely glorious. It was kind of expensive. We did the work ourselves. It was probably about $600. But for the health of your kids

Brian Johnson: Yeah. That's that's a drop in the bucket. You know?

B.D. Erickson II: It's nominal.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. Nominal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We I use I'll use, like, the radio mesh, like, on a remodel if Yeah. If I measure high frequencies. The reason I use the the radio mesh and and everyone, just just know your environment, because it's breathable. And so is, you know, being into building science and, you know, building healthy, I'm always trying to breathe a high permeability, breathable wall. If you use this material, you're gonna wanna use that carefully in that sense, you know, because you're you're gonna block any moisture.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. So we actually perforate it. We do perforate it.

Brian Johnson: You do?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. Yeah. We have we

Brian Johnson: have So so it it it you have a perm rating on that material.

B.D. Erickson II: You don't you they're making houses too tight these days. Days. Yeah. They are. They need they need to breathe. Yeah. And so definitely on on attics, you want it perforated. Because steam, showers, noodles, life, you don't wanna start trapping moisture.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: So so our pump comes in two versions, perforated and nonperforated. Okay. If you're gonna use a lot of it, you wanna perforate.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Right. Yeah. And you could use a nonperforated for an interior wall too. So, and and I'll kind of share what I'll do because I build some pretty airtight homes, but kind of with a different twist. So you would use that for like an interior wall, like even for myself, because what we're doing is just to reduce that e field, if you will. You know, we're wiring homes tight anyways, and I'm not worried about AC magnetic fields from what how we're wiring and doing all of our branch chain circuits and things like that. That's that's just if you know how to wire, you're not going to have that kind of an issue. Right? But you can't escape the electrical field and you can't escape that dirty or that noise, that line noise, with the exception of using, you know, a static filter, of course. And that's what I use on my construction, all my construction.

B.D. Erickson II: But

Brian Johnson: where was I going with this? You know, what we were doing is we were putting a kill switch in for the bedroom just to kill that power. So you were literally in that quiet zone. What you're talking about with this material, you wouldn't have to do the kill switch. So if we're wiring it properly, we're using the static filters, you know, but we have this potential e field. We could just have some of that material behind that wall, and it's absorbing that. And so then, therefore, you don't need to do the kill switch.

B.D. Erickson II: You don't need to do the kill switch. Yeah. And where the kill switch is great for the wiring, the neighbor's router, the five g tower, the four g tower, all that stuff is still coming through. Yeah. This grabs all that too.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now now keep in you know? So this this is great. This is good for everybody. And, of course, like, I went way far outside of the box as far as building, you know, you know, I'm building a 12 inch concrete wall on on on top of that. You know? And so they've actually tested, you know, the all of the millimeter wavelengths and, you know, and it and it it it it penetrates through, I don't know, nine, ten inches of the wall, and then eventually, it it dies off. So however however, you know, we're you you can't escape that e field without having, like, a kill switch. So I like the idea of, like, behind at least one wall. Maybe it's behind the headboard wall where the bed's going to strategically use that material because I want how cool would it be I mean, the the kill switch is an easy thing, but, you know, hey. People wanna have their lamps on at reading, you know, whatever. You know, they wanna be able to hit a switch and turn it off. You know? So Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. We like to read in bed.

Brian Johnson: Hey. This is which brings a good point too. So what if we have, lamps? You know? We've got lamps on each end. They're plugged in. That still, again, helps reduce that field from that cord coming out to that lamp from the wall.

B.D. Erickson II: That's gonna depend two things, distance and your darn light bulb because you're you're a lighting expert too.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Okay. Biggest culprits one of the biggest culprits is is our lighting. Satin static's first actual patent was on, a ballast that we designed because everything was compact fluorescent then and what a terrible product. Yeah. What a Oh, man. Diabolical. Yeah. From the incandescent bulb, that is an energy they're a dirty electricity filter. A good incandescent bulb is a dirty electricity filter. So everyone naturally had 20 to 30 filters in their home, and they went Mhmm. With a half bridge and a ballast and 50 power factor. And, boy, they got us good. They got us good with that one. And so one of the first things that we designed was a relatively clean CFL back in the day with perfect power factor and low THD and all that stuff.

Brian Johnson: Right. Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: So, anyways, that's a long way to answer that. Yeah. Done. The the lamp question, but light selection is gonna be another huge part of this building process. Yeah. I'm trying I'm tempted. I don't usually like to raise money. I like to operate debt free. There's two more patents that I'm working on right now that my team is working on. I have engineers that surpass me now. And some two new patents that we're working on, and we would love to open just a very traditional incandescent light bulb factory. Just get back to old school, anode cathode, tungsten filament in a vacuum with carbon gas, carbonite gas, the light the last a hundred years. You know that the last

Brian Johnson: hundred years.

B.D. Erickson II: It should only be a few dollars each, and I don't know if the powers that be will let me do that. But that gets back to a lot of things that we talk that you talk about too is at night, our body is like a warmer light. Mhmm. Right? At night, you know, during the day, I actually love full spectrum during the day because I'm trying to match colors if

Brian Johnson: you're Yeah. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Or match things. There's a place for full spectrum light.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. In in incandescent light doesn't always just answer the the question of, like, midday light. Exactly.

B.D. Erickson II: And

Brian Johnson: so blue doesn't Blue

B.D. Erickson II: gets this huge blue gets this huge bad rep right now, and, actually, if you wanna match your tie to your suit, you need some blue. Yeah. It is what it is. Right? And the

rainbow proves that the sun is absolutely full spectrum. Yeah. Rainbow proves that, and it's got blue in it. It's simply that at night, we're used to being by a fire. I believe it's not

Brian Johnson: It's, yeah, it's it's opposite right now with the lighting. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Exactly.

Brian Johnson: And and like you and like you said too, all these LED lights are you know? Some of these, not all of them. And because I'm really big into this topic, but, I won't go too deep into onto the show. But, you know, some of these LED lights are, again, these sources that I was talking about with all this dirty electricity. Right? And then you got them on top. Then you have them on a dimmer, which is putting out this dirty electricity, and then you have then you have the flicker on top of the whole thing. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Flicker on purpose, a lot of them now to communicate. Did you know that? That I

Brian Johnson: didn't know. Like, communicate.

B.D. Erickson II: Now they communicate. They absolutely do, and they you can pass a lot of information very fast with Flickr.

Brian Johnson: Oh. You can you

B.D. Erickson II: can flicker 60 times a second and give max tons of data. No. The flicking is terrible. The flickering is good.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Not well, yeah, I was gonna say maybe I don't go too far down the rabbit hole because I found a system that I work with and actually even kinda help co develop a package system of an LED, but it's a full spectrum system. Cool. You know, their diodes, their their power supplies or linear power supplies, you would be pretty impressed. Like, they don't put out

B.D. Erickson II: see it.

Brian Johnson: They don't you know, I I you you and I should really kinda talk about this. Yeah. You know, I talk about them all the time, color beam, but but their power supplies, their, the, yeah, all the technology I'm just drawing a blank right now. But all of the technology, the drivers, that's what

B.D. Erickson II: we're looking for. Happens is is they make them in Asia. Yeah. They make them built in obsolescence. They build them to break. The cheapest driver, cheapest node. No computer in it. We get this terrible product. Yeah. I've made I've made light bulbs for years. As you know or or don't know, I've made light bulbs for years, and it really came down to not bleeding edge science using a better driver from Germany. Yeah. A better diode, putting a small rectifier in there, putting

Brian Johnson: a small

B.D. Erickson II: capacitor in there. Yep. You know it. Filter in there. And that for years.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. That and that and so it was funny because when I came across them several years ago, there was this, this IT guy. He was very, very intelligent man, and he said, hey. He says, like, kid, you don't want flicker? Do you want this full spectrum and you wanna be able to warm to dim and all these things in circadian, so on and so forth? And he says, I work with this lighting company that seems to check the bill. He was a very intuitive guy. Anyways, did this job, got in there with all my meters, and I'm like, man, I hope this really works, you know, like, you know, because I wanted to give our client the best thing and we you know, I said, hey. I've never worked with this, but I think this is gonna fit the bill. Right? Now there dude, there was, like, nothing, like, measurable on an oscilloscope, and I was able to isolate these units. Right? Like, there was nothing. Right? And I'm like, well, this is crazy. The flicker was, like, less than 1%. On the warm to dim on this chip, We could bring it we could bring full spectrum in up to 680 nanometers, and there was a reason why they went that direction because they've worked with our circadian biologists and the activation of melatonin and serotonin. You know, like, the nanometer wavelengths between three fifty and six eighty is kinda where a lot of the big research is. I get it. Incandescent goes beyond that. You know, we can go on to that another another conversation. But, however, within this spectrum wavelength, it measured it. Like, so we would tune it down we would tune it, like, to, like, a sleep setting, if you will. Right? And it tuned down to 2,200 k. No blue with no blue spectrum in it. K? Then we would turn it all the way up. It was 50 they didn't they didn't wanna go too bright. So they went to 5,500 k. That's as

B.D. Erickson II: bright as you need to go.

Brian Johnson: Talland no blind did.

B.D. Erickson II: What do you mean by 55? That's what we do.

Brian Johnson: Right? And and then so that 55 would actually then have just the right amount of blue and cayenne. They even they even tweaked the blue and turned it more to a cayenne. And so to to create this 95 plus c r I rated light system. Right? And so, anyways, I'm like, man, this is crazy. I said, hey. And this is gonna blow you away. It's totally on a complete cat six cable. The whole the the the switches, the wall switches, the light, everything is on a cat six cable. It's not standard line voltage. The only standard line voltage is one twenty amp circuit running a couple drivers that you can isolate and put a static filter in there just to kinda clean up anything from that source, which there really isn't anyways. And then everything BD runs cat six cable completely. And I was like, so then we're not measuring any e fields. We're not measuring any magnetic fields.

B.D. Erickson II: That it takes to run a die a diode is so much that even to put a light in our stuff, I've gotta step it down just to run it. No. They just you know, nine watts goes a long way. Yep. Yep. You know?

Brian Johnson: Yeah. And the way that they did the drivers too, like, you could do some pretty long runs and stretches on how however whatever they're doing in their technology with these drivers. And that's where, like, a lot of IT low voltage lighting guys like to install them because they can do these long home runs, you know, and they don't have to have all these drivers stacked on top of each other. So it minimizes the amount. But I went to them and I'm like, guys, I'm not measuring any e fields, magnetic fields. And they offer completely hardwired so it doesn't have to operate on an RF signal, which a lot of these a lot of these Lutron fixtures do now. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: They do.

Brian Johnson: And I and there was no, like, dirty electricity. I'm like, this is crazy. So they said, no. No. I said, did you guys design a low EMF system this way? They're like, no. Wait. What's an EMF? And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, guys, like, do you realize what you're sitting on here and no one promotes it like this?

B.D. Erickson II: And we made low EMF lighting for forever, and really what it came down to is just clean electricity. Because the electricity the EMF is the result of

Brian Johnson: Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: Electricity. So if you don't have it in the beginning, then you don't have it. Yep. And they just weren't looking for it there. But by doing something one way, they got the result, not even looking for it.

Brian Johnson: And and the reason why they did it was, because they were doing a lot of, recording studios or, you know, a place where there was a lot of audio Yeah. Audio equipment, so they couldn't have it from wonder why. Electrical magnetic interference.

B.D. Erickson II: So so some of our so so we sell a lot of commercial stuff. My best commercial clients are LED sales guys because an LED sales guys goes to a casino, car dealership, outdoor percola for a restaurant, and they say, hey. Your lighting's old. It's ugly. It's not as pretty as it could be. It's antiquated, and it's cost you a lot of money. So the first thing they'll do is gonna make it beautiful. Your car lot's gonna stand out. Your casino's gonna stand out. Is gonna stand out. They say, no. It's ghastly expensive to start off. Yeah. You think it's gonna last a long time Yeah. And it's gonna save you money on the bill. Now if those LEDs get clean power, they'll last for decades. But the opposite side is they're so incredibly sensitive to dirty electricity. If they get dirty electricity, they'll fail immediately. Now the LED rep that just got a quarter million dollar deal looks like it ding dong and asked to replace them. And if he Yep. To filter the power, he'll be replacing them forever. So some There you go. We have fifty year old LED companies that won't put in LEDs over that 50,000 to a 100,000 projects bigger than that. They won't do without static power conditioners because Yeah. They're in we're their insurance.

Brian Johnson: You know, so that I think that's a good segue into, let's get right into, to me, one of your favorite technologies, and that's the perfect power box.

B.D. Erickson II: K.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Because it's perfect. Right? Because here we're talking about burning out, you know, LEDs and equipment and, you know, what what this conditioning box is is really doing. You know?

B.D. Erickson II: Let's go there. So it's a filter. And so when I tell people all the time, there's nothing bleeding edge in it. I I'm I'm not that smart. It's not Tartarian. I'm not that smart. It's it's not that good. Right? What it is is we really made a a list of the things that we wanted to avoid just like your LED guys. Mhmm. So you talked about electromagnetic interference Mhmm. Magnetic distortion, harmonics, these kind of things. So here's what we got that we want within a parameter. We want volts, amps, the product which is watts Yep. Little harmonic distortion Yep. Or magnetic interference, electromagnetic fields, cross talk or distortion

Brian Johnson: Mhmm.

B.D. Erickson II: Power factor, Ohm's law of primary frequency, Ohm's law of resistance, and primary frequency. It's the nine. It's the nine things we can do something with. And so we found products. Like, I found Stetzer making EMF stuff, and I immediately reached out to him and wanted to make it better, and he didn't want anything to do with me. And I didn't set out to build an industry. And I went to Gene at GreenWave, and I said, Gene, if you'd let me, I would redesign this. I would do this and that. Gene was actually smart enough to do it. Gene's products, the the the green wave is better than the stator. He made two improvements that I begged him to do when he did it. With the static unit, we saw, well, these things create power factor and capacitors actually hurt power factor. They they help it to about this much, and then they start to hurt it. And so putting in too many

Brian Johnson: Right. Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: Magnetic field. Now you're leading voltage. You do not want 30 filters in your house.

Brian Johnson: People take note of this. Take note of this. Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: You're This

Brian Johnson: is really important.

B.D. Erickson II: You've you've you've gone you've gone from power factor lagging to unity where ours try to get you to power factor leading, and now everything's gonna your phone is gonna charge hot and slow. Your light bulbs aren't gonna last as long. You don't want that many, and you're creating these little nodes of EMF. Right? So

Brian Johnson: Can it also too increase electrical magnetic frequencies as to? Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. In the fields, it has to. Yeah. Yeah. So you wanna really you wanna get the right size of those. Right? So we wanted something that would maintain primary frequency, lower amperage, improve power factor, reduce almost lot resistance, and just

nobody made it all in one cool thing, number one. Mhmm. And some guys that made parts of it didn't make it as well as they could make it. Yeah. And I wasn't doing it to get rich. I was doing it to help my little kid. So I wasn't gonna do it shitty. Sorry. I didn't mean I said an audio word or a thing. I wasn't gonna do it poorly. I wasn't gonna intentionally make it poorly. It didn't make any sense. Right? So

Brian Johnson: Alright. We'll get we'll give them a minute. I you know, I hope everyone, wrote these these nine steps down because this this is pretty cool. This is really the, the magic behind this right here.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. We had to go we had to go completely we had to go completely different.

Brian Johnson: And The the those are the the internals of the, filter. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Yes. So

Brian Johnson: But hey. And what what were you showing us on those? Just for fun. You know? I I I saw a bunch of, things in there. Like and I know maybe some people are like, I don't need to see it.

B.D. Erickson II: But My engineers get bad when I when I show too many, but it took different component sets to do each of these things. And we wanted to do two things. We wanted to treat all nine, and we wanted to do them with really great component sets in the best way that we could, and then getting them to play together because they didn't always wanna play together

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Building in some redundance. So let's say you're you have something in its capacitor base, and that's fine, and it has one capacity. Well and it came from China. Well, what are the chances that one in 5,000 is a little funky? Almost guarantee it. Would it not be? What number is one funky? But you only have one while yours is funky. And let's say it lives a really hard life, and it only has one and one fails. Now one fails. Now what do you have? None. Well, we have eight filters. Yeah. We don't just do the other filters not to talk trash. I'm standing on the shoulders of giants. I give those men credit for helping me leap from where I am. But that's only getting the amperage wave. Yeah. We have a voltage wave. And so we're only treating half of it anyway. So we're treating two aspects of the nine on one way. I didn't wanna do that. Yeah. I wanna treat all nine

Brian Johnson: Yeah. On two

B.D. Erickson II: different names. Yeah. And and then here's something else that is is part of our trademark and our secret sauce. In your home, you have three pathways. Now we have at our breaker panel, a b, a b, a b, a b down.

Brian Johnson: Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: We have a to neutral, which is half of our outlets. Yep. A 120 volt system. Then we've got b to neutral, should be the other half of our outlets Yeah. 120 volt system. Yeah. And then we have a to b. That's our dryer. That's our range. That's our air condition. That's those other things. So with the static unit, when I held this static unit, you'll see there are three, one, two, three Yeah. Circuit boards in there. And the way they're wired is one is red to white, a to neutral. Totally independent system. Yeah. The second one's black to white, b to neutral, totally independent. And then the third one is a to b, black to red. That's the two forty, wholly independent system. So we treat every possible attribute on every possible pathway on both waves.

Brian Johnson: I'm not an electrician, but forgive me, man. Is is this is this helping kinda balance the loads? Because I know we always wanna balance our loads. You know? Yeah. And if if the load isn't balanced, is this kind of helping balance that out?

B.D. Erickson II: No. It will not take something that's on a and put it on b. It won't do that.

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: It does filter all the loads and lower the big loads. Okay. So where the big loads are usually a and b. Right? The big loads are two forty. Yeah. They're the they're the dryer Okay. Range or air conditioner. That's your bill. Yeah. Right? What it does is it will harmonize those and lower those. So if it will lower those, then if you're out of balance, then you've helped that a little bit.

Brian Johnson: Man, you just brought on okay. Harmonize. You know? That that's actually really good because everybody's into these harmonizers. I I hey. Hold on. I gotta darn it. Somebody was trying to call. But, you know, I I just don't buy into it, and I'm into the geeky stuff. I've got the Leela Q, the Quantum stuff, and all these things. You know? But, hey, I need to know the Harmonizer's actually physically doing something. And so you I think you brought in kind of an interesting piece right there about how you're harmonizing that through technology, though. Yeah. A quantifiable way of harmonizing.

B.D. Erickson II: So we've all got the sticker on our phone. I've tested 11 of them. We've all worn the key link and do the stuff. Yep. They can I we we have we have really nice advanced engineering lab here? My guys have PhDs from MIT and UW. I got physicists from with with PhDs in physics as well. We can't really see a result in most of those products.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. You can't you can't really measure it.

B.D. Erickson II: My lips didn't say they don't work. I didn't say that.

Brian Johnson: That's not what we're saying. I'm with you.

B.D. Erickson II: Can't measure it. I can't I can't prove it. And so you're really going on hope where you when you put up your your your your t two and then you put up this, it goes to zero.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: That's I'm seeing something. And I can put it on electric, magnetic, RF weighted, and I can see it. That means so much to me

Brian Johnson: Yes.

B.D. Erickson II: As a person Mhmm. But wanting to be a sincere person, bring something to market, and consume for myself something that works. When we get in the huge buckets of Shungite and start to pestle and mortar it down, we we put it through tons of tests. We test all of it before we put it in. Mhmm. All of these circuit boards. We have seven UL listings. Everything is tested for safety and all that stuff before it goes out. And so I can't imagine selling or producing something that you can't read it at all.

Brian Johnson: I you know, I, somebody will it it kinda blows my mind. I I I believe in these things, but, again, you know, I tell a lot of these manufacturers who I'm close friends with. I'm like, okay. It does all this, but it doesn't mean I'm gonna live in a moldy house. It doesn't mean that I'm gonna live under a power line. The are you kidding me? I don't care if it mitigates, neutralizes, harmonizes my frequencies. I'll tell you what, I'm gonna build a healthy home that's gonna negate all of these types of things. Right? And somebody, you know, and say it's a thousand dollar technology that can do these things. Okay? Somebody will pay me a million dollars over a thousand dollars to build them a healthy home because it's quantifiable.

B.D. Erickson II: Right.

Brian Johnson: That's

B.D. Erickson II: I don't wanna be a boastful person because it's not attractive, and it's certainly not my spirit. But I'm passionate, and I love how our things test. Like, I didn't know the the beautiful compliments that you started from the built Institute of Building Biology. I didn't and so I love

Brian Johnson: I can't believe you don't know that. You know? You know, I it when you said, hey. You're, you know, you know, standing with the giants and all, like just so you know, like, in my point of view from what I've seen being in the biohacking world, now being in the EMRS world, you know, of building biology. Right? The like, two those are kind of the two big advocates of a lot of these technologies, and you're number one. Wow. You are number one, and I I love that you're you're speaking and kind of breaking all this down. Everybody that's gonna watch is there's a lot of takeaway in here. I didn't I don't wanna close out yet on that filter because we were talking about conditioning. You're talking about even harmonizing. You know, that's going to save. So just kind of just high level at this point now, like, as far as, like, the EMF per perspective, but also to how it benefits our physiology, our biology, and, of course, the equipment. You know, refrigerators and HVAC equipment and all these different types of things.

B.D. Erickson II: So so they are building in absolessence. Appliances don't don't last like they used to. Now some of that might be nefarious built in absolutens. Other things is they all have chips. Everything's got a circuit board and a chip. I just can't find a toy that doesn't have a circuit board. Yeah. Now these things are just naturally by their design. Two things. Number one, more susceptible to dirty electricity, and they're also a culprit. So things that increase dirty electricity, EMF, etcetera, we kind of interpret we we call them culprits. Right? And so the first thing you wanna do is get rid of culprits. That's your whole ethos. That's your whole thing.

Brian Johnson: Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: You know, what's it better? Is it better to put a filter on a cigarette or stop smoking? Yeah. Stop smoking is the superior way to go. So what you're doing is you're saying, let's eliminate as many as the culprits as we can. Yep. Now we have to realize too that we live in a modern world.

Brian Johnson: Yep.

B.D. Erickson II: And we need to be connected and Yep. Cold air. Yeah. We want hot air. We want hot water and all that.

Brian Johnson: We want we want perfect climate, man. We want our wireless Internet. We we want everything. Okay?

B.D. Erickson II: We do. And so if you wanna live in that world, let's that's great. Let's let's add a a few more technologies that really aren't that expensive. You know, our flagship product is $1,895. It's made in America. It's made with care. It's really robust at 300 volts even though it's only gonna c two forty.

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: It's totally specked out and you welded at 300 volts. It's got a twenty five year warranty. If it fails, if you know our company, we ship you a new one. Yeah. Argue with you. It is what it is. It took a big surge and then gave its life for your stuff. Yeah. That's why you bought it. That's one of the reasons. And so Yeah. You know, out out the new one goes. And it's really about we talk about harmonizing, petting a cat, man, or or or your dog or something when you you know, that calming sensation of having that little purring thing or that happy little dog, you have an exchange of electrons. Right? You have an exchange of energy, and you have an exchange of frequency. What's happening in the modern electrified world is, just as you said wisely, it's coming over the power line. We're making it with our stuff, and then it's acting as an antenna in all these wireless things we're getting it. And so what's happening is we're ending up with what I'll just call noise, just electrical noise and frequency and waves that are not in they're not in tune, baby. They are not playing in tune. So the static products do, to the best of their ability, is remove as many of those as they Yeah. Get it as quiet and as harmonized for you. What they do is our products soak it in like a sponge, they harmonize it, and then they put out that There

Brian Johnson: it is.

B.D. Erickson II: You can see.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. It's awesome. You know? And and it'll save your equipment. So

B.D. Erickson II: Save your equipment because your stuff's gonna last longer. It's gonna run cooler. Your phone is gonna charge

Brian Johnson: Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: Cooler. Like, one of the well, I don't know if dirty electricity is real. Every once in a while, your phone charges super slow and gets hot, and the little thing that plugs in gets hot. Everyone's experienced it, but it doesn't do it every time. Well, if it did it every time, then it would be normal since it Yeah. Do it every time. It's not normal. That's not what I'm saying is true. You've seen it. You've held it.

Brian Johnson: A lot of people, you know, talk about the lights flickering, and I'm not talking flicker from the light bulb. Right? We're talking, you know

B.D. Erickson II: The air conditioner comes on. Yep. Something. The lights dim for a second.

Brian Johnson: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so there's a lot of you know, some and some depending on the power companies. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Yep.

Brian Johnson: You you could be getting a lot of, disturbance or turbulence and, you know, you know, things going on through that electrical system.

B.D. Erickson II: You know?

Brian Johnson: So for me, it's like a no brainer, on every one of my builds. We use, you know, the box and then, of course, you know, as an EMR, you know, the the the perfect box. Right? Power box. Then we'll then I'll take a meter after they plug all their technologies in. I'll just make sure our lighting systems, you know, then we'll start doing the plug in filters, just that point source, but very strategically. Maybe just and we're talking just fine tuning because we've already built a low EMF environment already. K? Now we're just kinda making the tweaks now that we've brought the technologies into the homes. You know? You you know, even LG on a heat pump. You know? They might make a change in their circuit board, you know, from one model to the next. You don't know. You know? So that's why it's always good, you know, to really go in there and fine tune. So definitely, you know, bring in my this is just my 2¢ on it. Bring in a building biologist or somebody that really understands, like, what you and I are talking about before you go in there and just start making random recommendations and just plugging things in through the house and and really have an understanding of of what it is that we're filtering. You know? Yeah. You know, solar just one quick piece here. I know we're kinda running out of time here, but solar. You know? Yeah. I I'm hey. I know that's one of your backgrounds too. Right?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah.

Brian Johnson: I for me, the research and this is great to have a little bit of back and forth on this. This is a big piece.

B.D. Erickson II: Yes. This is important.

Brian Johnson: So I'm an I'm I'm pro solar, by the way. And a lot of people are like, what? What are you talking about? My focus is on the inverters

B.D. Erickson II: Yep.

Brian Johnson: Not the solar equipment. And so, you know, there's kind of, like, this understanding that solar is on the top of your roof or emitting radiation and, you know, it's dumping all of this, you know, harmonics, if you will, onto the DC side and coupling onto the AC side. I see it as the inverters. Can you can you speak to that a little bit?

B.D. Erickson II: So so the the the vast majority of the units that go out here that that leave on pallets go to solar companies that install our unit with everyone they do. We are the largest solar panel installer in Western Montana, and we will not put solar on a house in three things. Number one, we really try to avoid putting it over the actual bedroom area. The living room or the garage, even if it's not the best spot for the sun, if it's still gonna work, that's the superior place for it because you are gonna create a field, number one. Number two, round it with extra cabling and go right down to a

Brian Johnson: You're creating a field from the panel itself?

B.D. Erickson II: Just whenever you're moving that kind of current.

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: Right? So even if it's if you even if it's DC, by the time that you get to the fourth or fifth panel, you're at 500 volts.

Brian Johnson: Even DC?

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah. You can use a string inverter or a micro inverter. DC, it builds up fast. Right? So really be grounded and tie that to a ground Mhmm. That really isolated, safely code to a ground where we're not actually accidentally affecting our electrical system. Then you have to have a static filter, and you have to have field shield, or I wouldn't do it. I'm just telling you, I wouldn't do it. When you go so

Brian Johnson: I know a lot of people that just wouldn't do it anyways, but I wanna I wanna give hope that you strategically again, I'm I'm an advocate, so it's okay if you called me out too because it's it's strategically how we do the solar. That it's kind of

B.D. Erickson II: what I how you do the solar. Yeah. Because we know what we're looking for. We're not we're not lost at Lulule Land drinking our own Kool Aid. We know what we're looking for, and we just know that we want it at zero. Yeah. As long as we can get it to zero, well, then that then then that's okay. Right? Because I didn't flush your cell phone down the toilet. I just said use it intelligent. Right? Yeah. So when you go solar, unless you're off grid, you're getting a net meter. You're getting a freaking net. You're getting a smart meter. So you gotta just think about that for a minute, that you're gonna wanna put field shield or something on the opposite side of that dang smart meter because you've put, an RF tower on the side of your house. This will block it. Next, inverters make dirty electricity by the definition of dirty electricity. So all the current moves in a way. Right? And it moves in a way. DC has no way. So all an inverter does is turn it on and turn it off, turn it on and turn it off. And then that makes a wave. The ugliest wave on the planet. So what static does is it takes all that power from both the panels, the inverters, and the grid, saturates out, harmonizes it, and then gives you that clean power. Yeah. Yeah. There are a lot of not a lot. There are several jurisdictions, one that I know of in Texas, that had on the ballot that you cannot install solar without some kind of a dirty electricity or

Brian Johnson: Some okay. Or or qualified low THD inverter systems because that's kinda what I was gonna share next too was, you know, been testing these different inverters. Right? Some are just just off the charts, you know, screaming versus, like, I've measured a couple, you know, I'll share it was, Savant Savant in inverters, was actually pretty low. SMD? Is that am I saying SMD? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. SMD. Anyway SMA and then, the the the microinverters? Yeah. There's one other one that actually

B.D. Erickson II: That's what we usually use. We usually use microinverters.

Brian Johnson: Okay.

B.D. Erickson II: Run it all through filters. Yeah. They just tell people all the time, even if you're going to get the best verter for low THD and EMF, still add a static filter.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. For sure. Yeah. That's that's that's a given. You know?

B.D. Erickson II: And then For sure. Then, you know, if you're thoughtful if you're thoughtful, you can have you can have both. A lot of our customers get new roofs. Like, when you're gonna go solar, if you're gonna get a roof, that's when you do a roof. Yeah. Right? Because if structurally you need it, you could use the tax credit for it for a while Yeah. Anybody. And if you're gonna have five guys on your roof for a week and inspectors and permitors do it then. When we do it then, we do the field shield over the area that's Yeah. Have the solar. Okay. In the roofing, in the standing seam metal or the Okay. The asphalt shingle. But we've already done this and grounded it.

Brian Johnson: Are you putting that over, like, the your plywood or your Yep. Yeah. Your sheeting?

B.D. Erickson II: Do do yeah. Do your decking

Brian Johnson: and your

B.D. Erickson II: tar paper, and then do your field shield and your roofing.

Brian Johnson: Perfect. That's a huge takeaway.

B.D. Erickson II: That's how you do it.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. So that's, that's what we're getting ready to do on the 20 homes that I'm getting ready to build. We're I I could I could go off the grid if I wanted to. I don't think I'm gonna do I I think I'm not gonna go off the grid on this one.

B.D. Erickson II: It's a lot of work.

Brian Johnson: I just don't there's just a lot of stuff I don't understand, you know, all of the the politics and the permitting. And as soon as you're tying in, you know, and and then if you're trying to use tax credits versus if you're trying to use your own solar, you create your own solar farm. You know? Microgrid. Yeah. Your own microgrid. This is a lot into it. I'm like, you know what? It's a lot to build a healthy home, and I just wanna stay focused on that, you know, because we're getting ready to build 20 homes of the future. I love it. Yeah. There's BDD. This is this is gonna be fantastic.

B.D. Erickson II: Let's get it together. I want you to build one.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what so I do a lot of consulting too. Right? So I have a program and I have a system with all vetted materials, vetted protocols, you know, vetted manufacturers, and then, you know, a whole list of things to basically be prequalifying all of your trades and your subs and your general contractor embedding everything into the architectural design. So by the time we do all of our engineering, whether it's, you know, mechanicals or, you know, structural things like that, all of the techniques, you know, building a healthy home are in the plans. It's there. It's done. So when we go out to bid, it's a little bit more straightforward. Yeah. Sure. We might have electricians going, hey. You know? Can you explain this power filter? You know? Whatever. You know? That's like, absolutely. You know? Then we explain it to the electrician. Their minds are blowing, and they're they're never gonna go back to, you know, doing an electrical system without a static filter.

B.D. Erickson II: I love

Brian Johnson: it. You know? So I love it. Yeah.

B.D. Erickson II: An an hour and a half. I think we did. I I really enjoyed talking to you. If if one person watches you're a thousand, you're fun to talk to. You're you're smart, compelling human eye.

Brian Johnson: Oh, BD, man. Same same to you. Thanks for, actually like, I I need to hear this information over, you know, the highlights, of the breakdown of the EMFs. Right? The

the breakdown of and by the way, the shield. I I need to go back into understanding more on that shield, because I wasn't promoting it.

B.D. Erickson II: Yeah.

Brian Johnson: You know? And and I want really wanna promote that shield product. I think that's fantastic. And then understanding the breakdown of really what's in that filter and what really sets it apart. And then, you know, for me, the highlight is, hey. We can design solar systems that are clean. You know? And I I really want that to be a takeaway because it's a controversial issue right now.

B.D. Erickson II: It is. Solar's in a shakeup right now, and I think solar is gonna be done a lot better than it was in the past. Yeah. The margins are tighter now, and so I think it'll get rid of some of the people that weren't as careful. And I think that we'll see a lot more home building like you're doing, and I Yeah. And I'm your partner in that. And I You got it. More solar companies will start adding this because the reality is the reality, and and the truth is coming out.

Brian Johnson: Yeah. Awesome, man. Well, this was so cool. And, hey, we got to host each other. So, hey. I I'm telling you, Saddiq is way more well known than Synergy three sixty. I've I've been up and coming over the last five years as far as being a healthy home builder because what was building a healthy home, what does that look like? But now even in the last two years, we we've got a lot of consultants. We have a lot of advocacy out there. There's a lot of education. So, you know, my it's simple to find me. It's Senergy three sixty dot com. And, of course, my handle, Senergy three sixty, on Instagram. And then, of course, Sadik, man. Like

B.D. Erickson II: Sadik shield dot com. That's it.

Brian Johnson: Yep. Yep. Awesome, BD.

B.D. Erickson II: Well, I'm in your corner. Thank you for your time.

Brian Johnson: You got it.

B.D. Erickson II: Alright. Talk soon.

Brian Johnson: Talk soon.

B.D. Erickson II: Bye bye.

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